Yogg Saron discussion

[Kamira]

Cloud does not touch, he chops

[Faithless]

OK, ignoring phase 1 because that seems a lot harder to do the static tanking way:

P2: It's all about the portals. We were getting screwed the first few tries with tentacles overwhelming us, but once we sorted out the portal team, we started regularly stunning yogg.

We had the outside raid circling clockwise, nuking all tentacles in their path. Normally didn't manage to kill everything, but it keeps us alive till the portal team stun the fecker, and at that point we can really just clear it all out.

P3 was a bit of a surprise but not too hard - tanks taunt the adds as they spawn, tanking facing away from yogg. Melee nuked down adds, ranged nuked down yogg. Ranged were teh only people that needed to turn around when yogg did his lunatic gaze.

I think we had about 5 mins left on the enrage when p3 started, and finished with a good few mins to spare.

[Stormhammer]

Cool grats on the kill

When you talk about the static tanking do you mean with ferry tanks and a static spot?

I think on 10 man the "all the raid dances in clouds technique" is best

[Swift]

tbh it's best on 25 as well, but requires everyone in the raid to do it right

[Faithless]

Cool grats on the kill

When you talk about the static tanking do you mean with ferry tanks and a static spot?

I think on 10 man the "all the raid dances in clouds technique" is best

By static tanking i mean both tanks were sitting on sara, and taunting any new spawns to the middle.
Ranged + Melee + healers were cloud surfing around the middle, think on our successful go (last try of course), we had 1 intentional spawn and one mistake.

[wilfy]

(last try of course)

Obviously it was the last try - not much to keep doing was there?
(ok, it was announced as the last beforehand as well)

We got to P2 on every attempt, then suddenly it just came together and I was as surprised as anyone when I realized we were in P3. We hadn't even talked about what to do when we got there, but fortunately someone remembered the "don't look at the boss when he does the thingy" and that made all the difference. In comparison, P3 is real easy.

P1 is the key, though. Get through it without drowning in adds and you get a few seconds to clean up before P2 starts. After that, P2 consisted of nuking down tentacles, staying away from those with malady and close to those you are linked to, freeing team members and keeping your sanity up, whilst the brain surgeons do their thing. It sounds complicated, but it wasn't all that bad. It really all comes down to getting P1 right and coming tidily into P2.

Tip of the day: You can still cast or use potions while constricted. One try I got separated by the big head in the transition and ended up blasting my way out of it on my own (not quite as easy on 25 though), landed with very low health and got iceblocked. By the time it unfroze, the healers found me

Once you get clear of the clouds, it's actually a fun fight and I'm looking forward to getting it right on 25 as well

This was actually Hjeldir's very first visit to Ulduar. He has now done Mimiron, Vezax, Yogg and Razor - in that order. Some way to start, wouldn't you say?

-w-

[Nariaki]

As a healer, my observation is this - it's an unforgiving fight that will very rapidly spiral out of control once you make a mistake. Our first proper try at P2 (the first pull was a pyrric victory as far as beating P1 goes) was a complete "OMG WTF" fest that left us totally over-run.

Do not be disheartened by this. Yogg is a control fight. If you can handle P1 and not spawn any unintentional adds, it gets noticably less stressful. The same goes for P2 - once we had a half-decent phase 1 and everyone moving together, killing tentacles and running portals, that went from "initial attempts on Faction Champions" pain to a Jaraxxus-style "tough but steady".


Disc-priest-only in-joke: Try Pennance bolting a brain-room team member from outside. It'll shoot the bolts directly at Yogg-Saron and then give you "immune" messages

[Jasrahni]

Yep, once you get through the mad 'wtf is this' of phase 2, the rest is easy.

We had 2 dpsers and me going into the brain, make sure you're not all running for same portal as it disappears after. I found best way was for me to run to one furthest away as the dpsers didn't need much healing so made sense for them to get in first and me to go last.

Once our dpsers worked out that they were meant to dps the brain rather than charge straight through the room and out the portal, things got easier

P3 was a joke - hardly any healing to do, I spent most of it facing the back wall using LHW.

Jas

[wilfy]

The important thing is that Yogg is down. Dead. Toast.
That is a major barrier down. He is no longer invincible.
If it can be done on 10, then it can be repeated on 25.
All that's missing is control of phase 1 and not wiping in surprise of getting to P2

More signups please - Yogg dies tonight

-w-

[phulshof]

I honestly wish I could, but I have to focus this week on getting the music ready for my best friend's wedding. I'll probably be online from time to time to wish you luck, and to run a quick instance and dailies, but I fear this week I'm out for the count when raiding is concerned.